Oogie Boogie: Does anyone know where I can get a Caucasian Ovcharka pup in upstate New York, I've had no luck finding, anyone selling one??
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Answer by **DANY**
It may not be in your state, as Caucasian Ovcharkas aren't a common breed.
Answer by Ryan
I am more than positive that there are breeders right here in NY. My mother breeds/shows boxers and at one of her handling classes, there is a guy that breeds ovcharkas!
Answer by Admin
I invite you to view the following pages on this website:
- Caucasian Shepherd Breeders in the US
- Caucasian Shepherd for Sale or Adoption
- How much would a typical Caucasian mountain dog cost?
The "Caucasian Shepherd for Sale" page publishes new ads from Caucasian Ovcharka breeders and sellers, including those in New York.
Answer by JenMH™
You are unlikely to find any good ovcharka breeders in New York.
I am not going to question why you want this breed but for my own piece of mind, I will pretend you live on a farm and haven't had any success with other breeds who do the same function.
You will need to look into shipping from Europe. The breeders in the US are usually breeding from very limited stock and it is very well known that the dogs there have HORRIFIC health issues to do with their hips. This is true of the breed in general but it is really bad with those breeders.
They also have no desire to correct this as many believe this will interfere with the working temperament of the dog despite the fact that the dogs are unable to work past 4 or 5yrs old due to poor health.
They prefer to stick with the 'breed standard type' rather than having their goal be to produce healthy, working dogs. If they really care about function over the form they would be out-crossing to improve what they have already. They are being dumped with garbage from the European breeders and they can't see it.
I know of one breeder in the US, a very well-known breeder of ovcharkas who has been marketing these dogs as family pets for many years. Anyone who knows anything has a serious problem with that statement!
BUT those are issues for another day!
There are some good kennels in Russia, Poland, CZREP, and Germany, a few in Romania but they tend to breed the 'giant ovcharkas'. If you are looking specifically for a caucasian then i would look into Georgian and Armenian bred dogs.
The Georgian lines have a lot of inborn aggression, big dogs that are built solid and are fantastic working dogs. The Armenian lines are a bit more 'toned down', not as wild as the Georgian ones but still capable of working well.
ps. I would take a long walk off a short pier before buying an esquire dog!
Answer by Jeannine De Palma
I will state all do research before you believe someone's opinion online. The online politics concerning these 3 ovcharka breeds is equal to the COLD war they were found in.
My Oldest CAS is turning 12 years old, my oldest breeding is turning 10 and my oldest farm working livestock dog is turning 8 years old. Even thou we do show our entire foundation was based on 4 dogs outcrosses, we never will inbreed and just now linebred based on 5 generations of outcrosses.
Our dogs are temperament tested for stability and protection civil defense work as well as our flock of karakul sheep. Hip and or elbow certified and rated against the standard.
We also get stuck rescuing other dogs ( thus we are well hated by many).
Here if FoxFire UKC Gr CH Mr. Bojangles BIS OFA Clear elbows, Penn Hip clear Hips, CGN , Obedience, Agility, and this defense test. This is a test not sport or training just a TEST.
His mom is a full-time livestock dog age 8, still working today.
Importing is not a great idea if the person buying cant keep a dog. Yet another import CAO can be found for free on pet finder another IMPORT and who is going to export the dog back to the country of sale if it doesn't work out.
Yes very few good Ovcharka breeders in the USA but we have enough to ensure the future of the breed and for clients to research visit the breeders in person and to find a reliable breeder that will be able to assist you in the care of the dog. Vs importing a dog based on pics or comments you see online.
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Comments ( 4 )
Are you selling caucasia ovcharka puppies?
No, we don’t. But we provide some information about the sellers.
Hi, I have a 5 yr old male Caucasian shepherd that needs a home. I’m moving away from NY and unfortunately won’t be able to take him with me.
do a search or ask these breeders:located in Ohio, not NY sorry
Esquire Caucasian Ovcharkas
These dogs are not for everyone or anyone:huge,aggressive/possessive dogs,with a lot of hair
Puppies are not going to be cheap,as not many breeders are out there.