Giggles: My dog is APRI registered and his papers show champion bloodlines, he's a great bulldog, can I breed him?
I purchased him from Petland, and my vet told me that he is almost a perfect example of what an English Bulldog should look like, without any of the hip problems or breathing problems that can be common. I have had him for a year and I think he is great, and we have had several offers to breed him. I have heard that APRI is less than perfect, is it possible to prove his bloodlines and register him with AKC?
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Answer by Dani B
Sure you "can" breed him. But you probably shouldn't.
No offense to your vet - but I know very few people whose vets have NOT told them that their dog is the BEST representative of their breed that they've ever seen. However, your vet is not a dog show judge, he is a doctor. He is also a businessman (or woman.) He knows that by stroking your ego & telling you what a wonderful dog you have, you will want to come back to him. And the vet will make more money.
Also - one year old is quite young to be evaluating any dog. Your dog may not have developed breathing problems yet but may do so in the future. And IF in fact, he were a perfect example of a Bulldog, he WOULD have breathing problems. Due to the shape of a perfect Bulldog's head - it is more difficult for them to breathe.
Also - unless your vet has taken X-rays of your dog's hips & sent them to OFA to be certified, he can't possibly have any idea that your dog has good hips.
And of course, pretty much every dog everywhere has some champions somewhere in their bloodlines. But that in no way makes your dog a better Bulldog. As the old saying goes - you can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear. If your dog doesn't have a good background with good genes - he is not going to be a "Great" Bulldog - but he CAN be a great pet!
If your dog isn't AKC registerable, there is a reason. If I were you, I would save myself the hassle & just have him neutered & enjoy him as a pet.
Answer by Ballin Bichon ♥
I would breed him with another APRI or AKC registered for perfect pups. make sure its the same breed...we don't need another i.d.i.o.t making new hybrids of dogs!
Answer by Power of the Rat Terrier
Your dog has champion Bloodlines and you got him from a pet store??? No reputable breeder of champion dogs will sell to a pet store.
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Answer by Nichole T
Unfortunately the APRI isn't a real purebred registry. Although there may be champion bloodlines in his registry you cannot register him on AKC because his parents weren't AKC dogs. Even if the mother was AKC and the father wasn't your dog will not qualify for the AKC. You can still breed him with other Bulldogs. Just make sure his health is 100% with not hip or breathing problems.
Answer by yukidomari
Champion lines from a registry like APRI don't mean much. It means even less that you brought him at a pet store - a dog with true champion parents would never be caught being sold off at a pet store when the breeders would be super careful who to place the pup with.
You can't prove his bloodlines much less register him with the AKC since the paperwork you have for his pedigree with through APRI.
Your vet is not a professional judge for dogs. Vets take care of the medical side of animals, not so much conformation.
Even if your dog was a good example of its kind, you should enter it in competitions so that you can have a good, first-person look at other competing dogs and then truly decide whether or not you should breed your dog.
Plus having champion bloodlines does not make your dog champion quality. Both of our dogs are from champion bloodlines - our mini pin's father was 3rd in the nation at major dog shows - but she is fixed because she herself not of CH. quality.
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Comments ( 6 )
You people are ignorant asf if you think just because your dog is akc registered that makes it purebred or well bred then again your an idiot and I know this for a fact because I’ve paper hung dogs that weren’t what the papers said they were and they were akc registered so stfu and quit acting like you know wtf your talking about and quit acting like the akc is this great dog registry you bunch of morons ?
Nancy M says
He is a puppy mill dog is all. He doesn’t have any ‘show champion bloodlines’ and if the papers show it, they are false. APRI is a puppy mill registry that will register mutts so you could just print up a fake pedigree with whatever you want on it and be no different. The vet likely has no clue what a Bulldog is supposed to look like – most vets know very little about correct breed standard adherence. I have had them say the same thing about mixed breeds I have brought in. APRI isn’t ‘less than perfect’ – they are wholly imperfect and simply a registry used by puppy mills when AKC required DNA verification of parentage and the puppy millers and greeders didn’t want to have to be found out for the mutts they were making. No, he cannot be registered with AKC as he likely is a mutt to begin with… sorry but that is just the way it is… suckers are born every day and they continue to support through irresponsible purchase unethical puppy millers and ignorant back yard greeders. Get him fixed and love him for being your dog instead of exploiting him – he isn’t a perfect example and likely isn’t even a decent one.
Yikes. Vets are not experts in breed standards. If he’s not 2 years old and not OFA’d clear, CERF cleared, and OFA Cardiac Cleared via a cardiologist, NO you should not breed. At 1 year old, hips and breathing issues have not had time to surface.
Show champion lines? I have pups that go back 4 generations on each side ALL champions and I sell them on spay/neuter contracts? Why? Because they might have a bit of a straight shoulder, a tip to their tail or just not as cobby type as I want. Nobody but a judge or another show breeder can see these subtle faults, you or your vet would not see them. (Remember, vets are trained in medicine, not conformation or nutrition for that matter). These pups are no less “champion lines” than their show sisters and brothers, but I don’t want them bred — I only want the most perfect ones bred.
APRI registration is basically trash. Sorry. You can’t register (except as a spayed/neutered ILP) with AKC from APRI. Anything, with no proof, can be registered with APRI.
Enjoy your pet – if you want to do AKC obedience, get him neutered and apply for an Indefinate Listing Privilage with the AKC.
Nekkid Dog © says
Your dog is APRI because he came from a puppy mill.
You also have no way of knowing that your dog is clear of genetic problems without proper tests.. for example, to check his hips, you need to have an Xray done, and then send it in to OFA for them to evaluate.
No, you cannot “proove” his bloodlines and register him with AKC.. there is a reason why he is APRI registered, and not AKC.
“CH bloodlines” does not indicate quality either. Most purebred dogs have Ch bloodlines.
Unless your vet is an AKC judge, he also does not know what a “perfect example” of the breed is.
Weimaraner Mom says
Can you breed him sure, should you? NO.
Kip’s Mom says
Purchased from pet store = puppy mill
APRI = crap registry that wound register my big toe as a chinese crested
Champion bloodline = not a champion himself
Not registered with AKC.