Lauren.: A dog training contradiction??
Well, they say that if you have a problem training your puppy, then you should strictly crate train them. This means no outside crate activity except for eating and going potty.
They also say that "tie-outs" or keeping your dog outside all day because they run wild in the house, is not good. These kinds of dogs will go crazy in the house because they dont know how to act in the house.
Here is my point: Aren't the "tied out" dogs and the "strictly crate trained" dogs kinda the same? They both dont know how to act in the house whether it be running wild or going potty. If a crate trained dog only stays in its crate, when it finally gets out, it has no preconcieved notion to not eliminate there. Same as the tied out dog who is let into the house and runs wild because it does not know how to act. Therefore, is crate training really effective??does it cause bad behaviors cuz the dog is unable to walk around the house, and therefore doesnt know he or she shouldn't eliminate there?
As of right now i am strictly crate training my 7 month old yorkie pup upon many recomendations because of her stubborness with house training. is this making things worse?? ?
For all the people say "get that dog away from her" I want all of you to hear this:
Crate training does not mean that the dog is in the crate until the end of its life!! It means that just until the dog can be trusted not to poop anywhere in the house, its to be crated. This is meant to be a quick process to train the dog. Anyone with half a brain would know that. I can assure you that i love my dog with all of my heart and only want to train her in the best possible way.
Personally, I would love to meet face to face with CHINA and tell her what I think of her for her answer because it was completely rude, insensitive and unhelpful. This is Yahoo answers not Yahoo opinions. So China, get it straight, hun, because you sound so unprofessional and no one wants to hear your lousy opinion. As for the few answers that helped me, thanks. I now know how to better go about this. I will gate off a room in the house and let her roam so that she can start roaming. Thanks, again.
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Answer by Skyhoss
if it does go potty outside then it does not need to be in the crate all the time. make a area that is safe for the puppy when you let it loose in that area. check with akc.org. for more help.
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ldysugar says
i KNOW where you are coming from with the potty thing…. i have two yorkies a three yr old and a seven month old…. they can be STUBBORN little things. your best bet is to do like i do …. get baby gates and gate off the room that you are in and ONLY let them roam that room… as for the crate its ok to use when you have to leave them alone for a few hours but make sure they have paper to go on and something to lay on… my 3 yr old is housebroke IF i dont let her upstairs or she'll decide to potty up there but downstairs she's fine… my 7 month old on the other hand if i dont keep in gated in the immediate area he'll go into the other room and do his buisiness…. otherwise he'll go into the kitchen and use his papers (too cold here to let him out yet he's only 3 pounds) so he gets papers….. if you keep your pup near you limit it to one room till it learns that it cant go on the floor then gradually work up to two rooms and so forth it might work but like i said THEY ARE STUBBORN lol….. but loveable and cute…… and i dont believe in some peoples ideas of crate training it should only be used at night or if you have to leave for a little while if its more than two hours gate the pup into the kitchen or bathroom somewhere with no rug and put down papers…………………… hope this helps ya………. P.S. also tying a dog out all day IS just as bad as crating all day!! same difference
whpptwmn says
A crate is a great thing to keep your pup safe when you can't supervise her. You can't leave them crated or tied out all the time because they will never learn how to live in the house.
I have never heard anyone claim that they should be tied/crated all the time except when eating/pottying. That is stupid. Of course, there are so many clueless self proclaimed 'experts' out there…
China said – " I have 8 Shih Tzu that have full run in my home..They have never been in a crate other then when they are being groomed. "
For one thing, crates keep them safe when they are young or naughty and almost all breeders use crates and X-pens. What happens to your non crate trained dogs when they have to travel, if something should happen to you and they go to new homes, are injured and need total rest, etc. What do you do with a puppy, let it have the run of the house, potty and chew whatever it wants? Are you able to supervise a puppy 24/7?
BTW, dogs are DEN animals (even foofoo lap dogs) and many love their crates.
Zoe said – " Training children is much the same as training puppies"
LOL! Not so much, they are not human children. They learn and think differently. This thinking is at least partly responsible for our current dog problems, people do not understand that they are not humans in fur coats. How many hours have you spent managing large packs of dogs. How many dams have you watched raise her puppies? Dogs should be raised and treated as their mothers/pack leaders would.
And "Puppies like to run and play and follow their owners."
Of course they do, and they should. But when you cannot supervise them, they should be somewhere safe from trouble.
I HATE it when people answers questions and know little to nothing about the topic.
Break their spirit …. by being in a crate some….LMAO!!!!
ericams85 says
i right now have three doggs one 4 and two puppys both about 5 months. my oldest dog i got when he was five weeks a=nd was pretty much house trained i got lucky. but the puppys have been a chore i'm working oncrate training both of them. but they are only in the crate when no one is home and at night time that is there room. they go in to eat with the door open and nap in there when guest are over, but they do that volentarily. they feel safe in their own space. one of my puppys is a rescued pup that was crated all the time befor i got her and was deathly afriad of the crate and now she plays in there on her own. it's the same thing with babys. you don't let them roam free when you are not watching them and when you go to bed you put them in a crib in their room. they would rather be with you in your bed but, if you let them you will have a 10 year old child sleeping with you and your husband. you just can't let a puppy roam with out supervision. as they get older them they can roam free just like and 8 year old child does need your eyes every second that an infant does. a puppy is a baby , treat the crate as their room
rusty says
You have to train!!!, love and befriend this animal. Once it
realizes (after you have trained it) what is acceptable to it's
master (you!) it will act accordingly. It's just like a CHILD,
you have to teach it!!!!!
tom l says
Here is a crate training article that might answer some of your questions.
I crate train for a completely different reason than potty training. In training a dog everything is based on three actions;
#1 moving away from the handler
#2 remain stationary
#3 moving toward the handler
Without realizing what you have done, when you crate train a dog you have laid the foundation for all three actions.
When you say "kennel" and send the puppy into the crate, you have taught the dog to move away.
When you say "lay down and go to sleep" you have taught the dog to remain stationary.
When you open the crate and say "here" you have taught recall (moving toward)